Gavan Reilly

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So that’s blogging dead, then

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Like a lot of Irish bloggy types I’ve been keeping an eye on the discussion over at Twenty Major‘s blog where a guest post by Una Mullally (formerly UnaRocks) has triggered a massive, and predictably sometimes overtly personal, discussion about whether the “Irish blogosphere” is over the hill.

As with most discussions, there’s good points to be made on both sides – even if both sides can get a bit grouchy and see a personal insult where there isn’t one to be seen – but feeling that I made a pig’s ear of my comment on the piece and wanting to address another point that isn’t being addressed in the comments, I thought I’d have my tuppence here. I’ll start by rewording my original comment and maybe going from there – the probably length of this post has led me to post it here rather than leave another thesis in the comments on the original.

Overall I think Una’s is a interesting piece and includes a few desperately-needed home truths – the fact that it’s provoked more than a few endorsements from commenters who are happy that Una has called the bluff of some circlejerky types where bloggers produce bad content but are encouraged to do more because of the backslappingthey get is a testament to this.

However, I think the comment left by Joe hits the nail quite squarely on the head: the notion of a ‘blogosphere’ is in itself a very cliquey phenomenon. Nobody refers to newspapers or broadcasters as existing in their own semi-autonomous platform and blogging shouldn’t be thought of in that way either. The problem with perpetuating this concept – that the ‘blogosphere’ is an independent platform where the values of what’s worth reading are somehow skewed from the rest of the world – only ends up endorsing this chasm of quality.

Personally I’d be uncomfortable with declaring Irish blogging being ‘over’ – as I wrote my comment on the piece, I noticed Suzy’s post revealing that Bertie Ahern’s book earnings have been declared tax-free, a piece that deserves to be picked up by the mainstream media because of its sheer newsworthyness. Blogs are only relevant as news sources if bloggers notice this kind of thing before a paid professional journalist can do it, and Suzy in one swoop has managed to proof that there’s life in the young dog yet. Likewise what the lads over at TheStory are doing in pointing out the abuse of public spending by certain people, and the attention they’re getting from other people for doing so.

There’s a world of difference between blogging being ‘over’ and the staple figures of early Irish blogging – Twenty, Rick, Una herself, Blogorrah – all moving on or finding their lifestyles changing as lifestyles inevitably do. For someone like myself who’s dabbled in it for about three-and-a-half years, the demise of Blogorrah or Twenty’s retirement were akin to a longrunning TV show being cancelled or the death of an elder statesman. Of course it changes the landscape a bit when a respected senior contributor disappears, but TV wasn’t dead when Gay Byrne quit the Late Late Show, nor was soap opera declared defunct when Brookside was cancelled.

Ireland exists in an unusual and somewhat perverse circumstance, where because of the everyone-knows-everyone-sure-isn’t-it-a-small-world culture we have in real life on this island, some people have an instinct to only read content that’s written by Irish people. This would be akin to people making a principled point in ignoring British TV or newspapers – it’s just too small a pool for many people of real impact to make any significant following.

Una comments that Ireland’s blogosphere has never been as vibrant as those of other countries to begin with, because

There’s no Gawker, no Perez, no Huffington.

I think if Ireland was bigger, there most certainly would be all of those sites – we’re a very gossipy race in Ireland. The problem is that for there to be  an Irish Gawker or a Perez, we would need there to be an enormous talent pool of Irish celebrities to ensure a reasonable turnover of content, where there simply isn’t. An Irish Gawker would be an electronic form of the Sindo Life magazine – God saves us all. There’s no HuffPo or Guido-type character because Irish politics is nepotistic, petty and severely underresourced. Too little happens and when it happens it happens on a scale that’s of very little use to anyone. What’s more, if Ireland had a HuffPo or a Politico – and maybe that’s what Mark Little’s new venture might ultimately produce – there’d be very few people to read it, because with a population as small as Ireland’s, not only would current affairs coverage have limited appeal to begin with, but the nature of Ireland’s tech infrastructure means that there’s still only a limited proportion of people who actually have the means to read it. We often forget in Ireland how few people outside of the Pale and the other major cities have a decent internet connection; your average active citizen in Donegal, Roscommon or Clare might be very interested in the content of a Politico but simply doesn’t have a decent connection to read it. (They might have dial-up but they’re not going to use dial-up to check a site or an RSS reader every couple of hours without paying through the nose for it.)

Ireland is simply too small for this kind of stuff: it’s why we don’t have a Guardian or a real political spectrum of print media; why we don’t have any major domestic professional sports; and it’s why we have a constant chip on our shoulders about people telling us what we do is insignificant.

Blogging won’t ever be ‘over’. Bloggers just eventually do other things, just as journalists and broadcasters and people with any kind of hobby. There is no small irony that Una’s post was published on the blog of someone who has quit blogging before, by a former blogger themselves.

Una’s remark that 98% of blog content is rubbish is probably true, but that’s the same with most media. I used to read the Irish Independent but got bored of its constant editorialising. I now read The Irish Times but not on a daily basis, because I wish it would be more honest about its blatant pro-Labour agenda. The only paper I read regularly now is the Guardian because I admire its design and the resources it affords its writers, but even still I still largely read online so as to filter out a lot of what I consider crap (I had no interest in its Copenhagen coverage, and on the iPhone app I’d selected only content relating to football, other sport, media and technology to appear on the home screen because the rest doesn’t concern me). Perhaps it’s ironic that this isn’t an Irish medium but such is the world that all media, including blogs, now live in. Ireland’s Sunday papers are all quite poor too; the Sunday Times is too full of irrelevant Britspeak, the Sindo is only ever one nude Amanda Brunker picture away from exploding in a ball of its own semen, and Una’s own Tribune appears to be unable to decide what it wants to be, other than a permanent Government-basher (aside from the unfortunate fact that with dropping circulation, it has to keep cutting its pagination to stay alive). But again, TV isn’t dead; radio isn’t dead; journalism isn’t dead (it’s newspapers that are dying, not journalism itself).

One other point that Una made in her post that hasn’t been dissected in some way – and one that relates most personally to me, as someone with airs of trying to get a foot in the door of a paying job in some kind of media – was this:

Many seem to use blogging as their first stepping stone for getting on in other forms of media. Because of this, blogging will always be seen as rung number one on the media ladder, unless you work for the Irish Times or something and you’re dragged by the scruff of your neck into blogville. I think it’s only unfair in exceptions to describe blogging as anything else. The Irish blogsphere is populated by wannabes using a blog to broadcast themselves in the hope of latching on to other gigs, branding themselves as if their opinions or writing or indeed their ‘selves’ as a product is worth branding, and publicising various projects/work/whatever they’re undertaking outside of their blog. Why would anyone want to read that?

Student journalists and people like me are constantly being told that in order to set ourselves apart from the crowd in the quest to get recognised as a worthy contributor and picked up by ‘the mainstream’, we need to be jacks of all trades – we need to be able to produce copy, to edit it, to cut video, to record and treat audio, and to understand the platforms that all of this content uses. Essentially, we’re told we need to master all media, and the way to do this without being part of the bigger entities is to be users of the ‘new media’, of which blogging is the archetype. It might seem cheap, but for people in my shoes we’re expected to blog, and certainly don’t seem to be entertained for very long if we don’t.

I suspect that Una might be overstating it a little, but there certainly are a lot of Irish bloggers who want to latch onto other gigs and who brand themselves as being an entity. UnaRocks herself was one (albeit one that Una herself admits she got tired of, and one that she has abandoned by changing her Twitter username) and admitted in her final post that her online presence got her some gigs that her journalistic one wouldn’t have; Twenty is another, and was given a book deal for his work. Mulley is one too; he’s now able to make a full-time living out of it, and all credit to him. But again, that’s no different to other media.

What’s the difference between the ‘brand’ of Twenty Major and of Fintan O’Toole, or Vincent Browne, or Charlie Brooker or Richard Littlejohn or Terry Wogan or Pat Kenny or Ryan Tubridy or Gerry Ryan or Jeremy Clarkson or Perez Hilton – or, indeed, Una Mullally? There isn’t one – these are all people who make their living out of being a name, a brand themselves that people want to read. This is the nature of all columnists; they’re given the platform to write pretty much whatever they like, and the mere placement of their byline or headshot beside it is what gives it its prestige. There are people who read their output who wouldn’t read anything else in the platform in which it’s presented – Brooker readers who aren’t Guardian readers; Littlejohn readers who might never buy a copy of The Sun; and people (like me) who read O’Toole and Browne on irishtimes.com and Una’s column on Tribune.ie without buying the paper it’s printed in.

Blogging, therefore, shouldn’t be bastardised or stigmatised because there are people who trade and present themselves as being an entity of esteem, or a brand that people should be attentive to. It’s the basis of all media to have names that people will be attracted to, and that’s what keeps the world going around. Not only is it the prescribed mode for someone like me if I want to be taken on board, but seeing names like O’Toole and Browne is some of the reason people keep picking up the Irish Times, and seeing names like Mullally is one of the reasons people keep buying the Tribune, and keep Una employed and living in a swanky city-centre apartment with a turret.

That’s damn close to the lifestyle I’d like – so what’s an aspiring wordsmith to do?


Written by Gav

January 6th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

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  1. I suspect that Una might be overstating it a little, but there certainly are a lot of Irish bloggers who want to latch onto other gigs and who brand themselves as being an entity.

    Twenty is another, and got a book deal

    I would take issue with this. I was lucky enough to be very much ‘right place, right time’. I never had any grand design, I never started blogging to get another gig, least of all a book deal. It was a by-product of the success of the blog. And I have never ‘branded’ myself (unless you mean hot irons and that’s a different thing altogether).

    Now, of course there have been people who have seen blogging as a way to get ahead in other areas and fair play to them for doing it. Why wouldn’t you, if you could?

    Twenty Major

    6 Jan 10 at 12:22 pm

  2. I’ll have you know, I won that apartment in a poker game.

    Good post though.

    I’d agree to some degree (that rhymes) that the notion of the blogosphere is perhaps in itself a redundent one. Maybe it is. Maybe not. I just lashed out a comment piece in half an hour when Twenty sort of dared me on Twitter on the back of a couple of thoughts I had about blogging. Completely surprised at the reaction it got, people shouldn’t take it so seriously, it’s just one person’s small opinion! Quite amused by it really.

    Luckily there are people like you who are contributing to the debate in a smart way.

    UnaMullally

    6 Jan 10 at 12:28 pm

  3. @Twenty – I didn’t mean to suggest that you started out with some kind of masterplan to make money out of blogging, and apologise if that’s how it comes across.

    My point is that the ‘Twenty Major’ name is now something people consider as a brand that offers the reader an assurance that the content is going to be worth reading. Personally I know I do – even when I’m fed up to the gills of reading criticism of the HSE or politicians in general, when it comes up in my RSS reader as being written by you, I’ll read it anyway because I know it’ll be well written. One might surmise that name recognition could well have been a reason why a publisher decided to offer you a deal. I’m not criticising you at all for it – I bought both books myself though I haven’t gotten to read the second yet – and think you’re a perfect example of cream rising to the top. It’s just that your name now carries an implicit guarantee of quality and it certainly helps your content get read more widely.

    Gav

    6 Jan 10 at 12:28 pm

  4. @Una – I suppose you could take the storm-in-teacup reaction to the post to mean that the Irish blogging community isn’t all that dead and buried yet…

    Thanks for the compliment though. 🙂

    Gav

    6 Jan 10 at 12:33 pm

  5. You’re way too kind, Gav, but thanks!

    Twenty Major

    6 Jan 10 at 12:37 pm

  6. Good piece I think.

    Blogging in Ireland got too caught up in the idea of a blogoshpere. Rather then people producing content. People will always do blogging as people enjoy doing it. Whether the blogosphere surivies as it was who knows. In many way I hope it doesn’t it bread to much consensus.

    And yes most content is rubbish. All my content is certainly rubbish.

    simon

    6 Jan 10 at 12:51 pm

  7. A truly excellent post, Gav. You’ve pretty much summed up my own attitude to the whole Irish blogging scene.

    The country is, as you say, too small. Access is, as you say, too narrow. Backslapping and mutual congratulations abound. There’s not much room for multiple posts on the same topic, for the simple reason that there isn’t the demand for twenty viewpoints on the same parochial issue. As a matter of fact, it often seems to me that the best discussions in new media are about new media. What does that tell us? That it’s an incestuous entity. A closed circle.

    That may be cause enough for some, even many, to mock it, but there’s so much good to come out of it. It keeps us young folks writing, and, though it’s easy to talk about “wannabes” with disdain (and that’s what we are), there are enough success stories out there to make it worthwhile.

    I’ve slowed down with blogging lately, having been so busy; but I’m not done yet. I like to look at it as the equivalent of a poet’s juvenelia: something which will almost certainly be embarrassing when looked back on, but essential groundwork for a future writing career.

    Dave Molloy

    6 Jan 10 at 4:31 pm

  8. The notion of the romantic and great era of Irish blogging of yesteryear gets on my tits, as do the more and more frequent posts declaring it dead and gone as the author rides off into the sunset, too good for the rest of the peasants left behind.

    It’s not just about the ‘blog awards’, or whether or not we have someone tripping the red carpet feeding us supposedly worthy information about TG4 weather girls, or the emergence of the next cutting edge author or journalist. It’s all that AND what someone had for breakfast, AND whey thy miss their dead dog, AND just enjoying writing a few hundred words a couple of times a week to please yourself.

    If some people think that Irish blogging is dead because it’s too small, it’s because they are not willing to look around them.

    Martin

    6 Jan 10 at 7:46 pm

  9. Hi Gav–

    I’ve come to this discussion very late, so wrapped up in my own blogging clique am I. 😉

    It seems to me that Una is only seeing blogs through a journalist’s eyes, as if blogs that aren’t breaking news stories or which aren’t keeping people up-to-date about the music scene are a waste of time. But blogging’s forte really isn’t journalism at all; its forte lies in providing an opportunity for voices to be heard that will never make it into the mainstream media or be picked up by publishing houses. It allows anyone, if they want, to produce original material, to have their voice heard, to engage in debates, or simply to express themselves creatively. And if a lot of the ideas expressed are cliched, unoriginal, or awkwardly expressed, so what? It’s better that people try to express ideas and have them debated and developed in discussiomn with others than they be passive consumers of the mainstream media with no right of reply.

    The blogosphere – even the Irish blogosphere – is too diverse to imagine that it doesn’t serve its purpose anymore, simply because it doesn’t have just one purpose. It has loads. Twitter is really a journalist’s tool, and I can see that it makes sense for the journos to migrate to it, but it isn’t the place to develop and express original ideas. Blogging will always let you do that.

    Cheers

    JP

    Prenderghast

    12 Jan 10 at 5:50 pm

  10. Hi Gav–

    I’ve come to this discussion very late, so wrapped up in my own blogging clique am I. 😉

    It seems to me that Una is only seeing blogs through a journalist’s eyes, as if blogs that aren’t breaking news stories or which aren’t keeping people up-to-date about the music scene are a waste of time. But blogging’s forte really isn’t journalism at all; its forte lies in providing an opportunity for voices to be heard that will never make it into the mainstream media or be picked up by publishing houses. It allows anyone, if they want, to produce original material, to have their voice heard, to engage in debates, or simply to express themselves creatively. And if a lot of the ideas expressed are cliched, unoriginal, or awkwardly expressed, so what? It’s better that people try to express ideas and have them debated and developed in discussiomn with others than they be passive consumers of the mainstream media with no right of reply.

    The blogosphere – even the Irish blogosphere – is too diverse to imagine that it doesn’t serve its purpose anymore, simply because it doesn’t have just one purpose. It has loads. Twitter is really a journalist’s tool, and I can see that it makes sense for the journos to migrate to it, but it isn’t the place to develop and express original ideas. Blogging will always let you do that.

    Cheers

    JP

    Bruce

    19 May 10 at 3:41 pm

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